Comments on: What We’re Reading: Cell phones saving lives in Rwanda http://www.one.org/blog/2010/07/28/what-were-reading-cell-phones-saving-lives-in-rwanda/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:05:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: Debbie K http://www.one.org/blog/2010/07/28/what-were-reading-cell-phones-saving-lives-in-rwanda/#comment-572771 Debbie K Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:04:31 +0000 http://one.org/blog/?p=17330#comment-572771 Thanks Chika for your ideas & opinions. As I said yesterday, from my experience, everybody's input is welcomed here in the ONE Blog - as long as it is constructive. For me, the constructive part of your post is to highlight the sort of embittered person that I hope I never become. Neither you or Ms. Jamme or any of her supporters know me, my activities nor my heart yet you proceed like you do! What is the saying - "Folly precedes the fall of a man"? Indeed! The best thing I think is for this conversation - & obvious negativity coming from my "opponents" -to simply end. The way y'all are carrying on your "attack" of me and, by inference, this movement is counterproductive for you. It does NOT put your viewpoint in the best light as Ms. Jamme tried to do in her Guardian article. Maybe the Guardian should be informed of this thread and the "other side" of her supporters' opinions that were NOT conveyed in the Guardian article. I will NOT respond to any more of this sort of embittered line of personal attacks. I'll let the words of negativity speak for themselves. I wish you all well. Thanks Chika for your ideas & opinions. As I said yesterday, from my experience, everybody’s input is welcomed here in the ONE Blog – as long as it is constructive. For me, the constructive part of your post is to highlight the sort of embittered person that I hope I never become.

Neither you or Ms. Jamme or any of her supporters know me, my activities nor my heart yet you proceed like you do! What is the saying – “Folly precedes the fall of a man”? Indeed!

The best thing I think is for this conversation – & obvious negativity coming from my “opponents” -to simply end. The way y’all are carrying on your “attack” of me and, by inference, this movement is counterproductive for you.

It does NOT put your viewpoint in the best light as Ms. Jamme tried to do in her Guardian article. Maybe the Guardian should be informed of this thread and the “other side” of her supporters’ opinions that were NOT conveyed in the Guardian article.

I will NOT respond to any more of this sort of embittered line of personal attacks. I’ll let the words of negativity speak for themselves.

I wish you all well.

]]> By: Chika E http://www.one.org/blog/2010/07/28/what-were-reading-cell-phones-saving-lives-in-rwanda/#comment-572768 Chika E Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:46:37 +0000 http://one.org/blog/?p=17330#comment-572768 Actually Debbie K (or whatever your name is) I don't understand why you wouldn't welcome criticism of MDGs as well as Saint Geldof and his best friend, Bono. They, nor you, have all the solutions to Africa's problems and speaking as an African myself, I would much rather see Africans solving their own problems than have solutions imposed on them by foreigners. In case you hadn't noticed, there are a huge number of African diaspora who are aware of the challenges that beset the African continent and are returning in droves to set up businesses, provide employment and enrich their respective communities. The potential for Africa is exciting and the way out of a lot of it's problems will be through innovation and attracting investment and not through being portrayed as childlike and helpless by people such as yourself. Words of advice, find someone else to save. You aren't needed. Chika E Actually Debbie K (or whatever your name is)

I don’t understand why you wouldn’t welcome criticism of MDGs as well as Saint Geldof and his best friend, Bono. They, nor you, have all the solutions to Africa’s problems and speaking as an African myself, I would much rather see Africans solving their own problems than have solutions imposed on them by foreigners.

In case you hadn’t noticed, there are a huge number of African diaspora who are aware of the challenges that beset the African continent and are returning in droves to set up businesses, provide employment and enrich their respective communities. The potential for Africa is exciting and the way out of a lot of it’s problems will be through innovation and attracting investment and not through being portrayed as childlike and helpless by people such as yourself.

Words of advice, find someone else to save. You aren’t needed.

Chika E

]]> By: Debbie K http://www.one.org/blog/2010/07/28/what-were-reading-cell-phones-saving-lives-in-rwanda/#comment-572759 Debbie K Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:10:26 +0000 http://one.org/blog/?p=17330#comment-572759 Good to see that you are open to a constructive discussion, Marieme. This has not been my experience with you in the past but that should be a private discussion between us and not splashed all over the Internet. My experience has been that ONE has ALWAYS been an organization that is tolerant of varying points of view and is looking only to be the best that it can be in reflecting the diversity, determination & dignity of the Continent. Your voice for Africa is welcomed as are all others here. We should be working AS ONE for the future of Africa. Wishing you well. ~ Good to see that you are open to a constructive discussion, Marieme. This has not been my experience with you in the past but that should be a private discussion between us and not splashed all over the Internet.

My experience has been that ONE has ALWAYS been an organization that is tolerant of varying points of view and is looking only to be the best that it can be in reflecting the diversity, determination & dignity of the Continent. Your voice for Africa is welcomed as are all others here. We should be working AS ONE for the future of Africa.

Wishing you well. ~

]]> By: Marieme Jamme http://www.one.org/blog/2010/07/28/what-were-reading-cell-phones-saving-lives-in-rwanda/#comment-572758 Marieme Jamme Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:00:18 +0000 http://one.org/blog/?p=17330#comment-572758 Dear Debbie, Our paths cross again! Your comments do not surprise my team or myself. I am obviously well aware that you have been following me and have noted with interest your tweets and aggressive on-line behaviour towards me. I would like to correct and clarify some of your points for the sake of accuracy. First of all, I reject your description of me as an “avid trasher” of MDGs, Prof. Jeff Sachs & the African advocacy of Bob Geldof & Bono. Critical sometimes, yes – and I am not the only one, as you know – but I am not an “avid trasher”. Secondly, my criticism is not directed solely at ONE, but more particularly at bad NGOs that are doing harm to the African Continent. I am sure that all the people you mention in your post are aware of this and will agree with what I am talking about. If ONE were to offer me the hand of friendship, I would hope to be able to make a positive contribution, but this would boost ONE’s credibility rather than “diminish the credibility of (my) criticism of (your) movement.” Ultimately though, my job is not to criticise the work of the ONE movement in Africa, but to describe things as I see them and bring clarity on events on the ground while attempting to make a positive contribution to African development which I am very passionate about. I am open to the idea of a discussion, if you wish. Kind Regards Marieme Jamme Dear Debbie,

Our paths cross again! Your comments do not surprise my team or myself.

I am obviously well aware that you have been following me and have noted with interest your tweets and aggressive on-line behaviour towards me.

I would like to correct and clarify some of your points for the sake of accuracy.

First of all, I reject your description of me as an “avid trasher” of MDGs, Prof. Jeff Sachs & the African advocacy of Bob Geldof & Bono. Critical sometimes, yes – and I am not the only one, as you know – but I am not an “avid trasher”.

Secondly, my criticism is not directed solely at ONE, but more particularly at bad NGOs that are doing harm to the African Continent. I am sure that all the people you mention in your post are aware of this and will agree with what I am talking about.

If ONE were to offer me the hand of friendship, I would hope to be able to make a positive contribution, but this would boost ONE’s credibility rather than “diminish the credibility of (my) criticism of (your) movement.”

Ultimately though, my job is not to criticise the work of the ONE movement in Africa, but to describe things as I see them and bring clarity on events on the ground while attempting to make a positive contribution to African development which I am very passionate about.

I am open to the idea of a discussion, if you wish.

Kind Regards

Marieme Jamme

]]> By: Debbie K http://www.one.org/blog/2010/07/28/what-were-reading-cell-phones-saving-lives-in-rwanda/#comment-572755 Debbie K Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:31:09 +0000 http://one.org/blog/?p=17330#comment-572755 Welcome, Jeff Mowatt. Constructive discussion of issues is always welcomed here in the ONE Blog. You are among friends here. As someone who has been smeared by a blogger, I know the feeling. I was once told that I had no right to speak up for Africa because I was not an African! Very sad perspective.... AS ONE, debbie www.myspace.com/mulago Welcome, Jeff Mowatt. Constructive discussion of issues is always welcomed here in the ONE Blog. You are among friends here. As someone who has been smeared by a blogger, I know the feeling. I was once told that I had no right to speak up for Africa because I was not an African! Very sad perspective….

AS ONE, debbie
http://www.myspace.com/mulago

]]> By: Jeff Mowatt http://www.one.org/blog/2010/07/28/what-were-reading-cell-phones-saving-lives-in-rwanda/#comment-572752 Jeff Mowatt Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:48:04 +0000 http://one.org/blog/?p=17330#comment-572752 No worries Marreme. You're not tthe only one with "smear blogger" believe me. At least yours isn't suggesting you're a criminal. I guess you touched a raw nerve somewhere. No worries Marreme. You’re not tthe only one with “smear blogger” believe me.

At least yours isn’t suggesting you’re a criminal. I guess you touched a raw nerve somewhere.

]]> By: Debbie K http://www.one.org/blog/2010/07/28/what-were-reading-cell-phones-saving-lives-in-rwanda/#comment-572732 Debbie K Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:43:19 +0000 http://one.org/blog/?p=17330#comment-572732 Hey Robyn - just an fyi about Marieme Jamme: she is an avid trasher of the MDG's, Prof. Jeff Sachs & the African advocacy of Bob Geldof & Bono. I have followed her for a while @ Twitter and have seen her attacks on our movement. So I think that ONE or ONE members might want to retweet your post to highlight to her that our movement are rational people & more than willing to engage in civil & constructive discussion about the best ways to support Africa in its own efforts to uplift & empower its people. I think if we would be the first to offer our hand in friendship to Marieme Jamme then it would have to diminish the credibility of her criticism of our movement. Just some ideas......that I hope someone takes & uses wisely. ALWAYS FOREVER, ONE - debbie www.mpwn-uganda.org Hey Robyn – just an fyi about Marieme Jamme: she is an avid trasher of the MDG’s, Prof. Jeff Sachs & the African advocacy of Bob Geldof & Bono.

I have followed her for a while @ Twitter and have seen her attacks on our movement. So I think that ONE or ONE members might want to retweet your post to highlight to her that our movement are rational people & more than willing to engage in civil & constructive discussion about the best ways to support Africa in its own efforts to uplift & empower its people.

I think if we would be the first to offer our hand in friendship to Marieme Jamme then it would have to diminish the credibility of her criticism of our movement.

Just some ideas……that I hope someone takes & uses wisely.

ALWAYS FOREVER, ONE – debbie
http://www.mpwn-uganda.org

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