Comments on: ONE Sabbath Updates http://www.one.org/blog/2008/12/03/one-sabbath-updates/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:05:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: Jenn B http://www.one.org/blog/2008/12/03/one-sabbath-updates/#comment-554028 Jenn B Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:09:14 +0000 http://www.one.org/blog/2008/12/03/one-sabbath-updates/#comment-554028 Steve B, with all due respect, you're missing the point. It's not about our self-interest, as in "everyone's going to look out for you if you do the same for them", but rather just helping, working to eradicate (or try to) the problems that face our world. A little selfless attitude wouldn't hurt here either. That's the point of One Sabbath - not to satisfy anyone's self-interest, but rather bring attention to the world's problems (through faith in this case) and garner support to eradicate or at least lesson their effect in our world. Steve B, with all due respect, you’re missing the point. It’s not about our self-interest, as in “everyone’s going to look out for you if you do the same for them”, but rather just helping, working to eradicate (or try to) the problems that face our world. A little selfless attitude wouldn’t hurt here either. That’s the point of One Sabbath – not to satisfy anyone’s self-interest, but rather bring attention to the world’s problems (through faith in this case) and garner support to eradicate or at least lesson their effect in our world.

]]> By: Shruti K http://www.one.org/blog/2008/12/03/one-sabbath-updates/#comment-554026 Shruti K Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:04:43 +0000 http://www.one.org/blog/2008/12/03/one-sabbath-updates/#comment-554026 One Sabbath is a wonderful idea - as a Hindu, it really reflects what I believe and my faith reflects about giving and helping. The audio presentations are also very interesting, from all of the religions. One Sabbath is a wonderful idea – as a Hindu, it really reflects what I believe and my faith reflects about giving and helping. The audio presentations are also very interesting, from all of the religions.

]]> By: Steve B. http://www.one.org/blog/2008/12/03/one-sabbath-updates/#comment-553139 Steve B. Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:07:36 +0000 http://www.one.org/blog/2008/12/03/one-sabbath-updates/#comment-553139 I actually don't have a dilemma. Please enlighten me. lol I actually don’t have a dilemma. Please enlighten me. lol

]]> By: r.m.e. de rycke, http://www.one.org/blog/2008/12/03/one-sabbath-updates/#comment-553110 r.m.e. de rycke, Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:21:07 +0000 http://www.one.org/blog/2008/12/03/one-sabbath-updates/#comment-553110 The solution ito Steve B's dilemma is very simple: whenever I witness "unacceptable" behavior, I tell myself The solution ito Steve B’s dilemma is very simple: whenever I witness “unacceptable” behavior, I tell myself

]]> By: Steve B. http://www.one.org/blog/2008/12/03/one-sabbath-updates/#comment-553085 Steve B. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:05:08 +0000 http://www.one.org/blog/2008/12/03/one-sabbath-updates/#comment-553085 I've tried it both ways. I lived in fear neither time. I've gone back to seeing myself as seperate. When you say, "The more people realize that we are all one the more we will look out for one another.", you are assuming that people are going to look out for you in return. They won't. How are you going to appeal to someone's self-interests? Tell them that they have enough or could do with a little less? That's the mantra around here. If you have any doubt as to the outcome of those potential conversations, I suggest that you give those a shot. On a lot of people. You'll find that peoples self interests are gauged on them(time and money). Giving their money or time away is generally deemed not to be in one's self interest. I’ve tried it both ways. I lived in fear neither time. I’ve gone back to seeing myself as seperate. When you say, “The more people realize that we are all one the more we will look out for one another.”, you are assuming that people are going to look out for you in return. They won’t. How are you going to appeal to someone’s self-interests? Tell them that they have enough or could do with a little less? That’s the mantra around here. If you have any doubt as to the outcome of those potential conversations, I suggest that you give those a shot. On a lot of people. You’ll find that peoples self interests are gauged on them(time and money). Giving their money or time away is generally deemed not to be in one’s self interest.

]]> By: r.m.e. de rycke, http://www.one.org/blog/2008/12/03/one-sabbath-updates/#comment-553061 r.m.e. de rycke, Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:46:34 +0000 http://www.one.org/blog/2008/12/03/one-sabbath-updates/#comment-553061 Some of us have become aware that most exhortations to do good are based on "shoulds" This tends to cause resistance. In my experience a better approach is helping people assess the quality of their llives. Most of us settle for a whole lot less than we could attain. As long as we see ourselves as separate from others we will live in fear. Many of us are beginning to realize that our struggles with the economy are shared all across the globe. The more people realize that we are all one the more we will look out for one another. Thus I recommend appealing to people's sel f-interest rather than to their moral obligations. Some of us have become aware that most exhortations to do good are based on “shoulds” This tends to cause resistance. In my experience a better approach is helping people assess the quality of their llives. Most of us settle for a whole lot less than we could attain. As long as we see ourselves as separate from others we will live in fear. Many of us are beginning to realize that our struggles with the economy are shared all across the globe. The more people realize that we are all one the more we will look out for one another. Thus I recommend appealing to people’s sel f-interest rather than to their moral obligations.

]]> By: Steve B. http://www.one.org/blog/2008/12/03/one-sabbath-updates/#comment-553045 Steve B. Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:07:12 +0000 http://www.one.org/blog/2008/12/03/one-sabbath-updates/#comment-553045 That's going to require a WHOLE LOT of money. Where are you suggesting we get it? That’s going to require a WHOLE LOT of money. Where are you suggesting we get it?

]]> By: Liz http://www.one.org/blog/2008/12/03/one-sabbath-updates/#comment-553028 Liz Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:28:32 +0000 http://www.one.org/blog/2008/12/03/one-sabbath-updates/#comment-553028 I find the polling results very interesting, and I'm looking forward to when all the results are released in full. On that point, the audio clip of David Kinnaman is great and raises some important points. For one, it's clear that many congregations feel more confident in their efforts to address domestic poverty than they do in addressing global poverty (which is understandable), and an initative like ONE Sabbath I think can be very helpful to a lot of people in helping make this huge issue easier to grasp and connect to. The answer is clear, we should care for our neighbors here in America who are struggling, and care for those overseas who are struggling against extreme poverty and diseases like malaria. At least among my faith community, there's definitely a thirst for making faith more of an active pursuit, so I think something tangible like ONE Sabbath is great. The audio clips of Imam Johari, Rabbi Saperstein and Ishani Chowdhury also are all eloquent and they all make great points. I find the polling results very interesting, and I’m looking forward to when all the results are released in full. On that point, the audio clip of David Kinnaman is great and raises some important points. For one, it’s clear that many congregations feel more confident in their efforts to address domestic poverty than they do in addressing global poverty (which is understandable), and an initative like ONE Sabbath I think can be very helpful to a lot of people in helping make this huge issue easier to grasp and connect to. The answer is clear, we should care for our neighbors here in America who are struggling, and care for those overseas who are struggling against extreme poverty and diseases like malaria. At least among my faith community, there’s definitely a thirst for making faith more of an active pursuit, so I think something tangible like ONE Sabbath is great.

The audio clips of Imam Johari, Rabbi Saperstein and Ishani Chowdhury also are all eloquent and they all make great points.

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