Comments on: Frist: “we can be the generation to make extreme poverty… history.” http://www.one.org/blog/2008/09/04/frist-we-can-be-the-generation-to-make-extreme-poverty-history/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:05:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: Peter Gerard http://www.one.org/blog/2008/09/04/frist-we-can-be-the-generation-to-make-extreme-poverty-history/#comment-550144 Peter Gerard Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:38:33 +0000 http://www.one.org/blog/2008/09/04/frist-we-can-be-the-generation-to-make-extreme-poverty-history/#comment-550144 I'd like to chime in agreement with Sal and Debbie. We need to eradicate Extreme Wealth because it is linked to (and causes) Extreme Poverty. I've just launched a video about this issue: http://youtube.com/watch?v=QkSDqIMCTAg I’d like to chime in agreement with Sal and Debbie. We need to eradicate Extreme Wealth because it is linked to (and causes) Extreme Poverty. I’ve just launched a video about this issue:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QkSDqIMCTAg

]]> By: Chris.Scott http://www.one.org/blog/2008/09/04/frist-we-can-be-the-generation-to-make-extreme-poverty-history/#comment-549714 Chris.Scott Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:52:24 +0000 http://www.one.org/blog/2008/09/04/frist-we-can-be-the-generation-to-make-extreme-poverty-history/#comment-549714 Hi! Just to clarify, I am not the Chris who posted on this thread at 2:59. Whenever I post, I'll sign off as Chris, ONE.org or something to that effect. Debbie K, whenever you want to flag something for us, please use this link: http://www.one.org/contact/blog.html Hope all is well and as always, many thanks for the lively discussion! Chris, ONE.org Hi!

Just to clarify, I am not the Chris who posted on this thread at 2:59. Whenever I post, I’ll sign off as Chris, ONE.org or something to that effect.

Debbie K, whenever you want to flag something for us, please use this link: http://www.one.org/contact/blog.html

Hope all is well and as always, many thanks for the lively discussion!

Chris, ONE.org

]]> By: Debbie K http://www.one.org/blog/2008/09/04/frist-we-can-be-the-generation-to-make-extreme-poverty-history/#comment-549660 Debbie K Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:56:16 +0000 http://www.one.org/blog/2008/09/04/frist-we-can-be-the-generation-to-make-extreme-poverty-history/#comment-549660 Chris, Are you the new person that we contact when posters are not following the guidelines for posting here in the ONE Blog that Ginny originally posted? Hope that you'll respond back. AS ONE, debbie :) www.mpwn-uganda.org Chris,

Are you the new person that we contact when posters are not following the guidelines for posting here in the ONE Blog that Ginny originally posted?

Hope that you’ll respond back.

AS ONE, debbie :)
http://www.mpwn-uganda.org

]]> By: sammi http://www.one.org/blog/2008/09/04/frist-we-can-be-the-generation-to-make-extreme-poverty-history/#comment-549659 sammi Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:09:44 +0000 http://www.one.org/blog/2008/09/04/frist-we-can-be-the-generation-to-make-extreme-poverty-history/#comment-549659 thanx, chris staying close, sammi thanx, chris

staying close,

sammi

]]> By: Chris http://www.one.org/blog/2008/09/04/frist-we-can-be-the-generation-to-make-extreme-poverty-history/#comment-549652 Chris Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:59:51 +0000 http://www.one.org/blog/2008/09/04/frist-we-can-be-the-generation-to-make-extreme-poverty-history/#comment-549652 Dear ONE Commenters Has it occurred to anyone that the lack of community and consistent activity on this blog may be due the combative atmosphere found here -- most sadly, from ONE members themselves? We aren't really here to debate the particulars of political and economic theories dear to us, are we? We have a clear purpose here: to discuss concrete, actionable ways of helping end global poverty by working within existing political structures. If we need to debate other issues -- of economics, candidates' worthiness, election predictions, etc. etc. and 1000x etc. -- there are plenty of forums online to make our voices heard on these many other issues. Is it really helpful when we criticize enthusiastic new volunteers as "clappy" (implying their contribution lacks substance, or is not appreciated) or vigorously debate people on issues that are -- ultimately -- not a part of ONE's core purpose of help? You can believe people are reading this blog to see what kind of an organization ONE is, and what kind of feeling they can expect. It seems to me, when we project an aggressive energy, we limit our ability to be helpful to the very people we care most about: innocent suffering people who need all the help they can get. Dear ONE Commenters

Has it occurred to anyone that the lack of community and consistent activity on this blog may be due the combative atmosphere found here — most sadly, from ONE members themselves?

We aren’t really here to debate the particulars of political and economic theories dear to us, are we? We have a clear purpose here: to discuss concrete, actionable ways of helping end global poverty by working within existing political structures. If we need to debate other issues — of economics, candidates’ worthiness, election predictions, etc. etc. and 1000x etc. — there are plenty of forums online to make our voices heard on these many other issues.

Is it really helpful when we criticize enthusiastic new volunteers as “clappy” (implying their contribution lacks substance, or is not appreciated) or vigorously debate people on issues that are — ultimately — not a part of ONE’s core purpose of help?

You can believe people are reading this blog to see what kind of an organization ONE is, and what kind of feeling they can expect.

It seems to me, when we project an aggressive energy, we limit our ability to be helpful to the very people we care most about: innocent suffering people who need all the help they can get.

]]> By: Ruth http://www.one.org/blog/2008/09/04/frist-we-can-be-the-generation-to-make-extreme-poverty-history/#comment-549557 Ruth Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:48:55 +0000 http://www.one.org/blog/2008/09/04/frist-we-can-be-the-generation-to-make-extreme-poverty-history/#comment-549557 By the way, since when did FORMER senators get the privilege to run around putting Senator without the "former" in front of their names. Even Al Gore as a former vice president does not refer to himself with his former official title. With due respect for his former title, does he still believe in his mind that he is a senator currently serving as an elected official in the U.S. Senate? Someone needs to help bring him back to reality. I don't know other former senators or congressional representatives who go around doing this. By the way, since when did FORMER senators get the privilege to run around putting Senator without the “former” in front of their names. Even Al Gore as a former vice president does not refer to himself with his former official title. With due respect for his former title, does he still believe in his mind that he is a senator currently serving as an elected official in the U.S. Senate? Someone needs to help bring him back to reality. I don’t know other former senators or congressional representatives who go around doing this.

]]> By: Ruth http://www.one.org/blog/2008/09/04/frist-we-can-be-the-generation-to-make-extreme-poverty-history/#comment-549556 Ruth Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:34:02 +0000 http://www.one.org/blog/2008/09/04/frist-we-can-be-the-generation-to-make-extreme-poverty-history/#comment-549556 I agree that extreme poverty will not disappear until extreme wealth dissolves as a goal of those in economic wealth and political power. ONE is a nice ideal, but it won't be accomplished by politicians who come to toot their horns for their party, which former senator Frist is doing. Why is it that he still pursues the policy of permanently getting rid of an inheritance tax in the U.S.? Why is it that his family's healthcare corporation milked the medicare system, which is meant to address issues related to poverty? And he needs to be honest about his party's reaction to some pretty awful things they did to my father's reputation and military service, during which he worked on solutions to addressing malaria during the Vietnam War. The reason he's so bent on this is for his own public relations' sake. But some people just swallow the hypocrisy whole. ONE doesn't exist until he can come to a truth and reconciliation table and tell admit what he has done to perpetuate poverty and keep other people down and in service to his and his cronies' interests. When that happens, I'll actually believe in what ONE says it's doing. Until then, I want the truth. I agree that extreme poverty will not disappear until extreme wealth dissolves as a goal of those in economic wealth and political power. ONE is a nice ideal, but it won’t be accomplished by politicians who come to toot their horns for their party, which former senator Frist is doing. Why is it that he still pursues the policy of permanently getting rid of an inheritance tax in the U.S.? Why is it that his family’s healthcare corporation milked the medicare system, which is meant to address issues related to poverty? And he needs to be honest about his party’s reaction to some pretty awful things they did to my father’s reputation and military service, during which he worked on solutions to addressing malaria during the Vietnam War. The reason he’s so bent on this is for his own public relations’ sake. But some people just swallow the hypocrisy whole. ONE doesn’t exist until he can come to a truth and reconciliation table and tell admit what he has done to perpetuate poverty and keep other people down and in service to his and his cronies’ interests. When that happens, I’ll actually believe in what ONE says it’s doing. Until then, I want the truth.

]]> By: GinnyD http://www.one.org/blog/2008/09/04/frist-we-can-be-the-generation-to-make-extreme-poverty-history/#comment-549477 GinnyD Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:29:11 +0000 http://www.one.org/blog/2008/09/04/frist-we-can-be-the-generation-to-make-extreme-poverty-history/#comment-549477 Laura, I respectfully disagree with you. I do not see government as a means to provide health insurance for the American people. In fact, I prefer not to have government involved if that is possible. Why? Because when government gets involved things go very wrong. I pay for my health insurance, and I have all my life. There have been times when it has been a real hardship, such as when I had to insure myself, a brother and my mother. Three different policies, three times the cost. But I never felt that the government owed that to me. I still don't. Growing up in the projects as one of nine children, my parents taught us to be self sufficient. They also taught us that the government did not owe us a living or anything else. Working in a steel mill, I learned how intrusive the government and labor unions could be. I belonged to a union, because I had to if I wanted to keep my job. I think Senator Frist made his speech in exactly the right place. National security is important to me. I recognize that One's goals of eliminating global poverty will make us safer. I have no issue with helping less fortunate individuals, but I don't believe that it should be required. I believe in the goals that One is trying to accomplish. They offer a hand up, not a hand out. That is the lesson that we must learn. Laura, I respectfully disagree with you. I do not see government as a means to provide health insurance for the American people. In fact, I prefer not to have government involved if that is possible. Why? Because when government gets involved things go very wrong. I pay for my health insurance, and I have all my life. There have been times when it has been a real hardship, such as when I had to insure myself, a brother and my mother. Three different policies, three times the cost. But I never felt that the government owed that to me. I still don’t. Growing up in the projects as one of nine children, my parents taught us to be self sufficient. They also taught us that the government did not owe us a living or anything else. Working in a steel mill, I learned how intrusive the government and labor unions could be. I belonged to a union, because I had to if I wanted to keep my job. I think Senator Frist made his speech in exactly the right place. National security is important to me. I recognize that One’s goals of eliminating global poverty will make us safer. I have no issue with helping less fortunate individuals, but I don’t believe that it should be required. I believe in the goals that One is trying to accomplish. They offer a hand up, not a hand out. That is the lesson that we must learn.

]]> By: Laura http://www.one.org/blog/2008/09/04/frist-we-can-be-the-generation-to-make-extreme-poverty-history/#comment-549470 Laura Sat, 06 Sep 2008 14:38:30 +0000 http://www.one.org/blog/2008/09/04/frist-we-can-be-the-generation-to-make-extreme-poverty-history/#comment-549470 I respect the work that Sen. Frist and One are doing to alleviate global poverty. And I fully support the cause of One. It is very true that health care is a currency for peace. And in developing nations epidemics of HIV/Aids can nurture seeds of instability and even terrorism. I think it is ironic for this speech to have been given at the RNC before a crowd of delegates who do not even support providing health care for all Americans. It is surely a noble cause to reach out to nations poorer than ours to offer our help. But shouldn't we also committ ourselves to the cause of making sure that all of our citizens have adequate health care? This is something that McCain and the Republican platform do not support. In fact McCain proposes to do absolutely nothing to address the problem of the 50 million uninsured Americans and untold millions more who are underinsured. Furthermore it is true that the larger the income gap between rich and poor in a society the more you will see inadequate health care, lower levels of education and eventually more citizen unrest. That is simply a fact. In our own country we are at a level of wealth inequality not seen since the Depression era 1930's, all brought about in the last 8 years during which Republicans controlled the Executive and Legislative branches of government completely. Wake up America! Obama/Biden 2008 Peace and love, Laura I respect the work that Sen. Frist and One are doing to alleviate global poverty. And I fully support the cause of One. It is very true that health care is a currency for peace. And in developing nations epidemics of HIV/Aids can nurture seeds of instability and even terrorism. I think it is ironic for this speech to have been given at the RNC before a crowd of delegates who do not even support providing health care for all Americans. It is surely a noble cause to reach out to nations poorer than ours to offer our help. But shouldn’t we also committ ourselves to the cause of making sure that all of our citizens have adequate health care? This is something that McCain and the Republican platform do not support. In fact McCain proposes to do absolutely nothing to address the problem of the 50 million uninsured Americans and untold millions more who are underinsured.

Furthermore it is true that the larger the income gap between rich and poor in a society the more you will see inadequate health care, lower levels of education and eventually more citizen unrest. That is simply a fact. In our own country we are at a level of wealth inequality not seen since the Depression era 1930′s, all brought about in the last 8 years during which Republicans controlled the Executive and Legislative branches of government completely.

Wake up America!
Obama/Biden 2008

Peace and love,
Laura

]]> By: GinnyD http://www.one.org/blog/2008/09/04/frist-we-can-be-the-generation-to-make-extreme-poverty-history/#comment-549452 GinnyD Sat, 06 Sep 2008 01:48:08 +0000 http://www.one.org/blog/2008/09/04/frist-we-can-be-the-generation-to-make-extreme-poverty-history/#comment-549452 again, don't try to put words in other people's mouths. I support One strongly. So do a lot of other people. I just don't think it is fair to use subtle attacks on a site dedicated to helping millions of people. That should be the only focus. I always have nice days, evenings and weekends. I live in Paradise. again, don’t try to put words in other people’s mouths. I support One strongly. So do a lot of other people. I just don’t think it is fair to use subtle attacks on a site dedicated to helping millions of people. That should be the only focus. I always have nice days, evenings and weekends. I live in Paradise.

]]>