8 Responses to “McCain Gives Mic to ONE in Pelham, NH”

1. Rafael Hernandez Says: December 21st, 2007 at 6:26 pm Why comment? It seems that only sheep-like agreements will be posted in this blog and that all others will be suppressed. Question: Does ONE really believe in free expression? Your website indicates that you do and your blog is, I’m sure, more than a mere posture. If you do, if you actually think that open debate is the root of all understanding and the best form of disagreement as long as it is carried out with civility and respect, then re-post my previous and do not censure my honest views. I’ll reserve my thanks for when you do, though… Rafael Hernandez MY PREVIOUS POST (SINCE DELETED): The basic problems with ONE’s utopist goals are as follows: 1. Most of the world’s poverty can be traced to bad governments. Totalitarianism is not particularly successful in developing societies and nations. Freedom, on the other hand is. Socialism, for instance, is not a functioning process that encourages enterprise and personal effort and, yet, both are key to ending poverty. Communism has been proven an abject economic failure everywhere in the world where it has been openly and brazenly practiced. Capitalism, on the other hand, is a much better way to develop a country’s riches. Ergo, to end poverty first we must end bad governments. But I did not see a question addressing that logical solution being asked of any of the candidates. It would have been interesting, though… 2. The oath of office that every president must take addresses his promise to defend our country, to protect and defend the Constitution and to do whatever is necessary to forward the welfare of OUR citizens. Nowhere in that oath of office is there any mention of ending world poverty. The President of the United States is, well, the President of The United States and not of anywhere else. The unfortunate part of that is that every politician on the roster is stumbling over themselves to claim that he will throw more money at the problem but refuses to logically address it in a more conclusive fashion (see No. 1 above). I personally distrust any and all politicians that so readily promise to waste our money on placebo, feel-good solutions. I particularly distrust those that offer up easy solutions that have little or no chance of ending the suffering that is caused by bad governments throughout the world, much less of ending poverty. At least there is still hope for those that have not commented on these issues and, sadly, they are not the front runners on this election. Sincerely, Rafael Hernandez

2. Virginia Simmons Says: December 21st, 2007 at 6:44 pm When was this deleted? If your comment included more than 3 links or any profanity it would have been thrown into moderation for us to approve by hand (as a way for us to cut down on spam). Can you tell me where you tried to post it? I can’t find any record of your previous attempt to place a comment. I personally manage this blog and I believe in respectful, open conversation. It’s very often the best way to make progress. I’d appreciate if you could look into the facts before you make false accusations.

3. Rafael Hernandez Says: December 21st, 2007 at 7:06 pm I did exactly as you suggest, Madam. And the facts are that I posted this exact comment about half an hour before. So did somebody else on the Obama article whose comment is no longer there, by the way. Not that I care much about that gentleman’s particular opinion. Your appreciation for anything pertaining to my personal conduct, although welcomed, is not really needed nor is your feinted indignation. You see, I am not in the habit of making false accusations and, contrary to what you seem to imply, I do check my facts, which are, after all is said and done, what prompted my original posting in your blog. Now, then… Since you have elected to leave my post unedited and undeleted and as previously promised, thank you. Sincerely. Rafael Hernandez

4. Virginia Simmons Says: December 21st, 2007 at 9:53 pm You did make a false accusation Rafael : “Why comment? It seems that only sheep-like agreements will be posted in this blog and that all others will be suppressed.” To be clear- the ONE Blog comment section is here for conversation. Not abuse. Sometimes technology isn’t perfect. If a comment of yours doesn’t go through, perhaps just try posting again?

5. Rafael Hernandez Says: December 22nd, 2007 at 2:14 am And perhaps if you had not been as defensive or if your first stroke had not been an attempt to discredit me but, instead, to understand what went technologically wrong with my original post your advice would have been received more kindly. Besides, questions are not necessarily accusations and a simple explanation would have sufficed. Particularly if it was followed, as it has, with positive action. But, the fact remains that the events that transpired gave me good ground for reacting the way I did since, as I said before, my comment appeared well enough for a time but, when I went back to check if any other reader had reacted to it, my previous post had disappeared. How or why this happened is not really my business or area of expertise and if it was all due to some technical glitch, then I apologize for thinking badly. But, I repeat, I am not prone to making false accusations nor do I go off half cocked without first checking my facts. My own inexperience in your blog may well be the culprit here but not, as you first attempted to insinuate, was any of it due to my lack of honesty or candor. That I posted in your blog at all should be proof enough of my sincerity and of my expectations that I would be treated fairly. But, now it has all turned away from my original post and it has become more of a contest of chastisements between us. That was not my intention at all. Therefore, turning back to the original intent of my post, would you like to comment on its content instead of pursuing this avenue of discussion? Sincerely. Rafael Hernandez

6. Rafael Hernandez Says: December 22nd, 2007 at 2:32 am Ms. Simmons: I am now even more confused. I received an automatic message on my personal email that someone had responded to my post. It seems to be my original post, although I am not sure of that, and I am copy-and-pasting it to you because I am now genuinely curious as to why Mr. Hanna’s response does not appear in the current thread either. Believe me that I am not making accusations of any kind nor do I have any desire to stir the pot any further. In fact, my sole intention here is to clarify this strange series of events for both our benefits. Please tell me if this makes any sense to you. Thank you. Rafael Hernandez _________________ Here is the notification and what I found when I followed it: NOTIFICATION. There is a new comment on the post “McCain Gives Mic to ONE in Pelham, NH”. http://www.onevote08.org/blog/?p=339 Author: Phil Hanna Comment: Combating World Disease is really very simple and inexpensive. We do not need a health care bill to bankrupt us of make the Government larger. Make it mandatory that everyone reads and tries www.miraclemineral.org. They already have a long History of Curing Malaria in 4 hours and 3 days for HIV. Price less than $1.00 soapbox See all comments on this post here: http://www.onevote08.org/blog/?p=339#comments POST BY MR. HANNA. 2 Comments » 1. The basic problems with ONE’s utopist goals are as follows: 1. Most of the world’s poverty can be traced to bad governments. Totalitarianism is not particularly successful in developing societies and nations. Freedom, on the other hand is. Socialism, for instance, is not a functioning process that encourages enterprise and personal effort and, yet, both are key to ending poverty. Communism has been proven an abject economic failure everywhere in the world where it has been openly and brazenly practiced. Capitalism, on the other hand, is a much better way to develop a country’s riches. Ergo, to end poverty first we must end bad governments. But I did not see a question addressing that logical solution being asked of any of the candidates. It would have been interesting, though… 2. The oath of office that every president must take addresses his promise to defend our country, to protect and defend the Constitution and to do whatever is necessary to forward the welfare of OUR citizens. Nowhere in that oath of office is there any mention of ending world poverty. The President of the United States is, well, the President of The United States and not of anywhere else. The unfortunate part of that is that every politician on the roster is stumbling over themselves to claim that he will throw more money at the problem but refuses to logically address it in a more conclusive fashion (see No. 1 above). I personally distrust any and all politicians that so readily promise to waste our money on placebo, feel-good solutions. I particularly distrust those candidates that offer up easy solutions that have little or no chance of ending the suffering that is caused by bad governments throughout the world, much less of ending poverty. At least there is still hope for those that have not commented on these issues although, sadly, they are not the front runners on this election. Sincerely, Rafael Hernandez Sincerely, Rafael Hernandez Comment by Rafael Hernandez — December 21, 2007 @ 6:24 pm 2. Combating World Disease is really very simple and inexpensive. We do not need a health care bill to bankrupt us of make the Government larger. Make it mandatory that everyone reads and tries www.miraclemineral.org. They already have a long History of Curing Malaria in 4 hours and 3 days for HIV. Price less than $1.00 soapbox Comment by Phil Hanna — December 22, 2007 @ 1:40 am RSS feed for comments on this post. TrackBack URL Leave a comment

7. Virginia Simmons Says: December 22nd, 2007 at 8:05 am Your first comment was NOT on this blog, there were no technical problems and no one ever deleted anything. You placed your original comment on the ONE VOTE ‘08 blog and not on the ONE BLOG. http://www.onevote08.org/blog/?p=339#comments You did make a fasle accusation, I did try to find out what happened: “Can you tell me where you tried to post it? ” You need to go away for a while or I will remove your ability to leave comments here.

8. Rafael Hernandez Says: December 22nd, 2007 at 10:41 am Don’t bother. You only listen to what you want to hear. Rafael Hernandez

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